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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by Marc Obaldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Obaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I followed this guide to make my Console2 work like a game console (Quake, HL, CS)
http://www.instructables.com/id/%22Drop-Down%22,-Quake-style-command-prompt-for-Window/ (fixed link)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed this guide to make my Console2 work like a game console (Quake, HL, CS)<br />
<a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/%22Drop-Down%22,-Quake-style-command-prompt-for-Window/" rel="nofollow">http://www.instructables.com/id/%22Drop-Down%22,-Quake-style-command-prompt-for-Window/</a> (fixed link)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by Marc Obaldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Obaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I followed this guide to make my Console2 work like a game console (Quake, HL, CS)

http://www.instructables.com/ id &quot;Drop-Down&quot; -Quake-style-command-prompt-for-Window</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed this guide to make my Console2 work like a game console (Quake, HL, CS)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.instructables.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.instructables.com/</a> id &#8220;Drop-Down&#8221; -Quake-style-command-prompt-for-Window</p>
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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by Cem Koc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cem Koc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there an easy way to use rxvt with console2? Each rxvt shell is being opened in a new window? :(</description>
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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by Console is not showing the menu bar or the toolbar! &#171; b b b</title>
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		<dc:creator>Console is not showing the menu bar or the toolbar! &#171; b b b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by Eric Larson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I had to use Windows I ended up doing the majority of my shell work in Emacs shell-mode. This actually translated to doing the same thing in Linux as well. In fact with a little lisp it is trivial to start servers that I need for work and have convenient access to them all within Emacs. 

There are definitely some quirks, but overall it was a pretty decent solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I had to use Windows I ended up doing the majority of my shell work in Emacs shell-mode. This actually translated to doing the same thing in Linux as well. In fact with a little lisp it is trivial to start servers that I need for work and have convenient access to them all within Emacs. </p>
<p>There are definitely some quirks, but overall it was a pretty decent solution.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by khalid</title>
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		<dc:creator>khalid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the post, got cygwin working!!!! and with cool background image</description>
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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by Binil Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Binil Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Console2 stores its settings in a console.xml file, which you can edit ..

It is worth mentioning that the XML file is located in the Console installation directory as a sibling of Console.exe. It is obvious in hindsight, but took me a while to figure out. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Console2 stores its settings in a console.xml file, which you can edit ..</p>
<p>It is worth mentioning that the XML file is located in the Console installation directory as a sibling of Console.exe. It is obvious in hindsight, but took me a while to figure out. <img src='http://looselytyped.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16.December 2008

Happy to find your article on Console2! The tabs will probably work in a later version of Console2; the current version is Beta. You might try running a second instance of Console2, which would amount to «installing» it a second time (into i.e. a different folder), instead of a single instance with tabs. That is less elegant, but at least you are able to configure the background colour or window size (or both) to remind you which Console2 applies to which purpose. I put the word install in quotes because Console2 is stand-alone and doesn&#039;t really install, it just runs.

By the time I found your article I&#039;d already been working with Console2 for some weeks. For those who don&#039;t know, a right-click on the interior of the Console2 window opens up the configuration menus. I&#039;m very happy with a slightly transparent, deep forest-green background, golden-orange-y letters in Lucida Console 10. I keep to a configured-to-size-and-location window for Console2.

While unlike you, I do not personally find CMD.exe to be all that bad; but I certainly don&#039;t like the default window in which it appears. My dislike prompted me to give Console2 a try (it is a big improvement over the earlier Console (no number suffix to the earlier name). I was hugely surprised to see that I could specify (in the configuration menus) what shell I want to use. Well, now! --- Hands down, that had to mean «TCC_LE», and since a year or so, a slightly scaled-back version is freeware. No nag screens. (http://www.jpsoft.com/tccledes.htm)

JP Software is the same company which provided (and still provides) the «4DOS» replacement for command.com (it too is now freeware). --- «TCC_LE» is by no means a crippled or trial version of a still-more-advanced version, but TCC_LE does not have absolutely everything in the pay-for.

Everything I mention here I run from portable flash drive.

It was a breeze to specify the shell. Please note: it is okay to specify absolute paths, i.e. without specifying a drive-letter. TCC_LE (whose executable is named «tcc.exe») comes with extensive documentation. Buried somewhere, but it is there, in that documentation is how to configure it.  It turns out all a person has to do is (a) at the TCC prompt, type «cd.&gt;tcmd.ini» [ENT] in the same folder where tcc.exe is; and (b) type «option» [ENT] at the tcc command-prompt. Configure away, and on save and exit the tcc configs get written to the (until now) zero-byte file you created in step (a). To make the Console2 colours work, switch off («un-tick», disable) ANSI COLORS under the «Windows» tab (in the config-menus, from «option»). Console2 provides the colors, but not if you do not switch off the ANSI with OPTION.

One lets Console2 load (start) tcc.exe. This is key. In addition to the configuring under OPTION menus, an optional but very desirable file that TCC looks for on start-up is «TCSTART.cmd», which should be put in the same folder as tcc.exe and tcmd.ini. As with tcmd.ini, you yourself create a blank with the correct name, then write to it (from a batch file: the batch file does the writing) before you launch (with cmd.exe&#039;s «start» command, in that same batch file) Console2. Have something like the following run in the folder where tcc.exe is. ---

@echo off

The usual opener, of course.

cd.&gt;TCSTART.cmd

Create a zero-lenth file that tcc.exe will look for and read when tcc.exe starts.

echo set .txt;.ted=\_HTML\TedNPad.exe&gt;&gt;TCSTART.cmd

I create what JPSoftware calls «executable extensions» for .txt and .ted. Typing a You_Name_It.txt filename at the prompt where You_Name_It.txt is located [ENT] loads You_Name_It.txt into Ted NotePad (which in my case I put in folder N:\_HTML, where N: is the letter a given site (host PC) assigns to my flash. Note that I do not specify the N:. It is enough to specify \_HTML. Ted Notepad has the rare feature of «commit word wrap» which puts hard returns to selected text, line by line, according to where text wraps for a given TedNP window width. Any such files where I&#039;ve used commit-word-wrap I name to FileName.ted (nothing proprietary to TedNP about the .ted extension: frankly, I made it up). For any .txt or .ted file, I type in Console2 (with tcc.exe as shell) the initial letters of a .txt or .ted filename and press TAB for autocompletion. If I TAB too far past the file I want, I do SHIFT+TAB to put the engine in reverse and go back.

echo cd..&gt;&gt;TCSTART.cmd
echo cls&gt;&gt;TCSTART.cmd

In my case I want Console2 and tcc.exe to display the opening prompt in the parent directory of tcc.exe (and of tcmd.ini and TCSTART.cmd). Users will modify accordingly. Best to not change drives. To prove you&#039;re running tcc.exe, type «echo %comspec%» [ENT].
 
Now start console.exe. I locate Console2&#039;s files in a subdir of \_HTML. Users will modify accordingly. Keep to same drive (flash, HD partition).

start \_HTML\Console_2\console.exe
exit /B

I end with an «exit /B» because all of the above I CALL from another .bat.

The one thing I miss with tcc.exe is a «find» command. The work-around I use is to create a secondary batch-file (call it secondBat.bat) with whatever I need to do with «find», including creating a marker-file such as Yes_Thats_True.txt or No_Its_Not.txt according to what (ahem) «find» finds (or doesn&#039;t find). Then from the batch file running under tcc.exe, I do this:

cmd /k (call secondBat.bat)

which opens a cmd.exe shell for the purpose of running secondBat.bat. SecondBat.bat must end in a full «exit» and not an exit /B so that the CMD /K «knows» that the CALL is completed. Once the call is over with, %comspec% is back to tcc.exe.

Tcc.exe gives a lot of bells-and-whistles. Those who want full-blown UNIX bells-and-whistles will of course run a shell under Cygwin. I am myself putting that off, since I&#039;d have to get a specifically portable-from-flash Cygwin running, which I hear tell can be done. In the meantime tcc.exe gives me such niceties as copy file1.ext file2.ext ... fileN.ext [N:]\path_to_destination (where N: needs specifying only if it&#039;s a different drive. Tcc.exe also gives me «cd -» (very Unix-y) namely change to the directory you were at before you came to the present directory.

Thanks especially for including your code whereby you modified the XML file. If I ever need to go this far under the hood to configure Console2, it&#039;s great to know how to do it.

For me, TCC.exe (with occasional calls to CMD.exe) and Console2 bring back the good old days of (4)DOS. It&#039;s almost as good as running Linux or BSD with an XTerm or an RXVT console window.

Yours sincerely,

Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16.December 2008</p>
<p>Happy to find your article on Console2! The tabs will probably work in a later version of Console2; the current version is Beta. You might try running a second instance of Console2, which would amount to «installing» it a second time (into i.e. a different folder), instead of a single instance with tabs. That is less elegant, but at least you are able to configure the background colour or window size (or both) to remind you which Console2 applies to which purpose. I put the word install in quotes because Console2 is stand-alone and doesn&#8217;t really install, it just runs.</p>
<p>By the time I found your article I&#8217;d already been working with Console2 for some weeks. For those who don&#8217;t know, a right-click on the interior of the Console2 window opens up the configuration menus. I&#8217;m very happy with a slightly transparent, deep forest-green background, golden-orange-y letters in Lucida Console 10. I keep to a configured-to-size-and-location window for Console2.</p>
<p>While unlike you, I do not personally find CMD.exe to be all that bad; but I certainly don&#8217;t like the default window in which it appears. My dislike prompted me to give Console2 a try (it is a big improvement over the earlier Console (no number suffix to the earlier name). I was hugely surprised to see that I could specify (in the configuration menus) what shell I want to use. Well, now! &#8212; Hands down, that had to mean «TCC_LE», and since a year or so, a slightly scaled-back version is freeware. No nag screens. (<a href="http://www.jpsoft.com/tccledes.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpsoft.com/tccledes.htm</a>)</p>
<p>JP Software is the same company which provided (and still provides) the «4DOS» replacement for command.com (it too is now freeware). &#8212; «TCC_LE» is by no means a crippled or trial version of a still-more-advanced version, but TCC_LE does not have absolutely everything in the pay-for.</p>
<p>Everything I mention here I run from portable flash drive.</p>
<p>It was a breeze to specify the shell. Please note: it is okay to specify absolute paths, i.e. without specifying a drive-letter. TCC_LE (whose executable is named «tcc.exe») comes with extensive documentation. Buried somewhere, but it is there, in that documentation is how to configure it.  It turns out all a person has to do is (a) at the TCC prompt, type «cd.&gt;tcmd.ini» [ENT] in the same folder where tcc.exe is; and (b) type «option» [ENT] at the tcc command-prompt. Configure away, and on save and exit the tcc configs get written to the (until now) zero-byte file you created in step (a). To make the Console2 colours work, switch off («un-tick», disable) ANSI COLORS under the «Windows» tab (in the config-menus, from «option»). Console2 provides the colors, but not if you do not switch off the ANSI with OPTION.</p>
<p>One lets Console2 load (start) tcc.exe. This is key. In addition to the configuring under OPTION menus, an optional but very desirable file that TCC looks for on start-up is «TCSTART.cmd», which should be put in the same folder as tcc.exe and tcmd.ini. As with tcmd.ini, you yourself create a blank with the correct name, then write to it (from a batch file: the batch file does the writing) before you launch (with cmd.exe&#8217;s «start» command, in that same batch file) Console2. Have something like the following run in the folder where tcc.exe is. &#8212;</p>
<p>@echo off</p>
<p>The usual opener, of course.</p>
<p>cd.&gt;TCSTART.cmd</p>
<p>Create a zero-lenth file that tcc.exe will look for and read when tcc.exe starts.</p>
<p>echo set .txt;.ted=\_HTML\TedNPad.exe&gt;&gt;TCSTART.cmd</p>
<p>I create what JPSoftware calls «executable extensions» for .txt and .ted. Typing a You_Name_It.txt filename at the prompt where You_Name_It.txt is located [ENT] loads You_Name_It.txt into Ted NotePad (which in my case I put in folder N:\_HTML, where N: is the letter a given site (host PC) assigns to my flash. Note that I do not specify the N:. It is enough to specify \_HTML. Ted Notepad has the rare feature of «commit word wrap» which puts hard returns to selected text, line by line, according to where text wraps for a given TedNP window width. Any such files where I&#8217;ve used commit-word-wrap I name to FileName.ted (nothing proprietary to TedNP about the .ted extension: frankly, I made it up). For any .txt or .ted file, I type in Console2 (with tcc.exe as shell) the initial letters of a .txt or .ted filename and press TAB for autocompletion. If I TAB too far past the file I want, I do SHIFT+TAB to put the engine in reverse and go back.</p>
<p>echo cd..&gt;&gt;TCSTART.cmd<br />
echo cls&gt;&gt;TCSTART.cmd</p>
<p>In my case I want Console2 and tcc.exe to display the opening prompt in the parent directory of tcc.exe (and of tcmd.ini and TCSTART.cmd). Users will modify accordingly. Best to not change drives. To prove you&#8217;re running tcc.exe, type «echo %comspec%» [ENT].</p>
<p>Now start console.exe. I locate Console2&#8217;s files in a subdir of \_HTML. Users will modify accordingly. Keep to same drive (flash, HD partition).</p>
<p>start \_HTML\Console_2\console.exe<br />
exit /B</p>
<p>I end with an «exit /B» because all of the above I CALL from another .bat.</p>
<p>The one thing I miss with tcc.exe is a «find» command. The work-around I use is to create a secondary batch-file (call it secondBat.bat) with whatever I need to do with «find», including creating a marker-file such as Yes_Thats_True.txt or No_Its_Not.txt according to what (ahem) «find» finds (or doesn&#8217;t find). Then from the batch file running under tcc.exe, I do this:</p>
<p>cmd /k (call secondBat.bat)</p>
<p>which opens a cmd.exe shell for the purpose of running secondBat.bat. SecondBat.bat must end in a full «exit» and not an exit /B so that the CMD /K «knows» that the CALL is completed. Once the call is over with, %comspec% is back to tcc.exe.</p>
<p>Tcc.exe gives a lot of bells-and-whistles. Those who want full-blown UNIX bells-and-whistles will of course run a shell under Cygwin. I am myself putting that off, since I&#8217;d have to get a specifically portable-from-flash Cygwin running, which I hear tell can be done. In the meantime tcc.exe gives me such niceties as copy file1.ext file2.ext &#8230; fileN.ext [N:]\path_to_destination (where N: needs specifying only if it&#8217;s a different drive. Tcc.exe also gives me «cd -» (very Unix-y) namely change to the directory you were at before you came to the present directory.</p>
<p>Thanks especially for including your code whereby you modified the XML file. If I ever need to go this far under the hood to configure Console2, it&#8217;s great to know how to do it.</p>
<p>For me, TCC.exe (with occasional calls to CMD.exe) and Console2 bring back the good old days of (4)DOS. It&#8217;s almost as good as running Linux or BSD with an XTerm or an RXVT console window.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely,</p>
<p>Roger</p>
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		<title>Comment on Console2 &#8211; A worthy cmd window replacement by Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 08:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m remebering correctly (it&#039;s been a long time since I&#039;ve used a windows box), the reason that the default console in Windows sucks so much is because they needed to keep backwards compatability for a whole bunch of things, and for some reason decided not to fork and give users a nice powerful shell.

This means you get to be restricted to 80 columns, and can&#039;t create a file named CON. Whooo.</description>
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<p>This means you get to be restricted to 80 columns, and can&#8217;t create a file named CON. Whooo.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Console2 - A worthy cmd window replacement at LooselyTyped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 22:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a few days of using it, I decided I liked it enough to venture into customizing it. As I mentioned earlier, I have a &#8220;projects&#8221; directory directly under the root, and prefer to have a console [...]</description>
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